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Cranberry Mango Pumpkin Floss
Seajewel posted a topic in HalloweenieJust a wee bit sour!
Autumn Song 2021
Seajewel posted a topic in HalloweenieIts dreams like the fluttering leaves have gone: oak dust, violet leaf, orris root, white benzoin, vetiver, and dry ambrette seed.
Let's try this and see if it works
Renazuki posted a blog entry in Renazuki's BlogFrustration is not being able to upload a picture in a forum or get the links to work. I've done the copy paste of think picture link and I get a red error box saying nope you can't do that. So we'll see if this works - well fawk me.. after changing a setting.. >.> it works
Howling in Vain
zankoku_zen posted a topic in HairMoonlit amber fur, basmati rice, and champaca absolute.
Chocolate Smooch Smut
zankoku_zen posted a topic in HalloweenieA little melted, but fine if you pick out the foil remnants.
Your most evocative Halloween/Autumn scents 🎃
femmenstein posted a topic in RecommendationsAs it says on the tin! Looking for Halloween/Autumn scents that really channel the spirit of the season. Apple cider, pumpkin, bonfires, spooky atmospheres, witchy scents, you name it. Preferably restricted to scents that are currently available (they don't have to be Halloweenies). Thanks in advance!
October Surprise Update: Genius Loci, Hallowenches, and More
Failmingo posted a topic in AnnouncementsHold on to your bats! Er.. we mean butts. Either way, the Lab has a doozy of a late October surprise for you -- a new Genius Loci release staring our furry night-winged friends; Hallowenches over at Trading Post; our monthly Full Moon scent; and a trunk show of vintage BPAL rarities. Links to all can be found below! ++ GENIUS LOCI: BATS OF LOS ANGELES Six bat perfume oils. Art by Drew Rausch! https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/product-category/limited-edition/halloween-2018/genius-loci-bats-of-los-angeles/ Three bat hair glosses: https://blackphoenixtradingpost.com/category/genius-loci/genius-loci-bats-of-los-angeles/ ++ HALLOWENCHES A frisky collection of Halloween-themed perfumes and bath oils (!!!), featuring your favorite good time ghouls, the Hallowenches. Labels by Aidan Casserly! https://blackphoenixtradingpost.com/category/halloween-2018/hallowenches-halloween-2018/ ++ MOONS OF SATURN: HYRROKKIN "Viper-green and smoldering: smoke-swirled black pine, patchouli leaf, coriander, and sweet green vetiver." https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/shop/limited-edition/a-little-lunacy-limited-edition/moons-of-saturn-hyrrokkin/ ++ TRUNK SHOW We're clearing out space at the Lab! These are available in very limited quantity. Just what they sound like: SNAKE OIL LEMON BOMB WHITE TEA FUCK UP https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/shop/limited-edition/halloween-2018/snake-oil-lemon-bomb-white-tea-fk-up/ KINDA SORTA SNAKE OIL CREAM SODA https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/shop/limited-edition/halloween-2018/kinda-sorta-snake-oil-cream-soda/ And we saved the best for last: SAMHAIN V1 -- Our original 2002 prototype! https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/shop/limited-edition/halloween-2018/samhain-v1-the-original-2002-prototype/ Thanks, one and all -- have a very happy Halloween!
IT'S ALIVE! The Weenies Are Live
Failmingo posted a topic in AnnouncementsThis year we've truly outdone ourselves by exploring strange new depths in diablerie as well as perfumerie. In addition to many classic treats, we've got a spooky Chaos Theory, a timely Poe tale storyboarded in scent (art by Tenebrous Kate!) and a ribald new series of blends inspired by goats in classical art. Trading Post's update is still forthcoming! BEWARE... You may find more thrills here than e'er you bargained for:.. https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/product-category/limited-edition/halloween-2018/
Haute Macabre Reviews the 2017 Weenies
BPALNewsWire posted a topic in AnnouncementsHi everyone, Haute Macabre reviewed a lot of our Halloween 2017 collection. It's good reading for this Halloween Eve. More later!
First Halloweenies Haul Reviews
Magicunicorn posted a blog entry in Magicunicorn's BlogBPAL reviews Pumpkin Sugar- amazing! I can almost taste caramelised pumpkin and sugar! Like if you were to make pumpkin brittle. The throw on this is impressive and I dabbed a touch on last night and 6.5 hrs later I could still smell it, if a bit fainter. Spiced Autumn Cider- wet: reminds me of going to an orchard backup home and getting fresh mulled Cider from the farm shop. Delicious! Not too sweet (but I get the maple at the very top) and spicy in all the right ways. Very iconically autumnal in a foody/drinkie kind of way. Dry: the spices are coming through beautifully and I still get the apple, it's the bottom of the pot of mulled cider. Devil's Night 2016 - i definitely smell the fires in the distance and the sooty musk. As it dries it sweetens to an almost autumn powder if that makes any sense. Yipe!- in the bottle, it's sugary sweet syrupy. Wet- like a melted ice lolly or melted black cherry sweet. I want to eat my arm. As it dries it darkens and lifts to a less syrupy smell to sweet fruit tea or incense. Third Charm 2016- in the bottle- very musky patchouli. Wet- It smells like a cast spell. Very magical! The cedar really brings all the earthy smells together and binds them nicely like a wrapped smudging stick. As it dries it warms to a beautiful wood smell and like you walked into a witchy/crystal shop. Like boxes on boxes of incense. Fizzy Jack O'Lantern 2016- in the bottle: a little soapy almost. I can smell the lemon and a slight pumpkin with lots of "fizziness". Wet- lemon gin and pumpkin. Still a little soapy. Maybe it's a "clean" scent rather than "soapy." This isn't unpleasant, just not pumpkin-y enough. Dry- ok, here's the pumpkin! And the gin! The lemon and soapyness has subsided to reveal something I definitely want to drink on a night out. Her Strong Enchantments Failing- cold, purple, incense. Very sweet. Wet- I can smell the blackberry very prominently. But still incense is strong at the base. Slightly more floral as it dries. It still smells "purple". That sounds may be because of the description, but if you know what a purple popsicle smells like, that's the top note. I totally smell the pale rage. Somehow colour and visual descriptions work with this perfume. It's fruity, but not. Ha! I may need to take a break from smelling for a few hours. The Unquiet Grave 2016- in the bottle: cold, floral, clean wet: very clean scent and I would describe as white. Absolutely get the frozen roses, white sandalwood at first. As it warms, the frankincense comes through. I smell as if I'm in the Ice Garden from The Night Circus. Dry: more of the gardenia is coming through and I think I can smell the orchid. Skirting the edge of soapy but not offensively. Dead Leaves, Blackcurrant, and Tobacco Tar- in the bottle: like crushed wet leaves you can smell from an open window!! Love it so far! Wet: Very organic smelling, with a hint of musk. I'm guessing the muskiness is the lab's dead leaf note. This seems to be the common theme between them. I bought everything blind and this is my first Halloween purchase so sorry if any of this differs from veterans of these scents. Dry: I get the black currant! Actually I am reminded of Lush's twilight bath bomb (but just the dust), maybe thrown into wet leaves...for whatever reason. I am in LOVE! This is a sure keeper! Samhnainophobia 2016- in the bottle: dark and boozy from the vetiver and I definitely get the bourbon geranium. Like a dark Halloween night after a few days of rain. Wet: beautiful and dark! Not sickly dark like I was expecting. Very smoky in the best way possible. Dry: even smoker but still retaining a slight sweetness to its dark base. Dead Leaves and Sugared Cardamom- wet: musky, dark. The cardamom is coming through beautifully. This is very pleasant. As the muskiness fades, I can smell the leaves a bit more. As it dries some spice emerges and gets very sweet on me! This is a slow burner on me and I'm glad I've given this one some patience. It was almost headachey on my the first time I tried it but the drier it becomes the more I am falling in love. Dead Leaves and Lavender Buds- in the bottle: very fresh French lavender with a hint of muskiness. Wet: crushed lavender flowers and the dead leaves are coming through as well. I feel like if you had a lavender field surrounded by trees, this is what the edge would smell like in autumn after a rain. Dry: Like I'm stomping through live wet lavender and raking leaves! So happy with this one!! Witch Dance 2016- in the bottle: sweet and booze. Wet: beautiful floral bourbon or liqueur. This is dark floral and earthy. Very sultry and pretty. I am wanting it to be stronger as it dries. My skin seems to be eating everything I put on it. I need this one to age and strengthen. I really like it! Just needs some throwing and staying power on me. So gorgeous though. Glad I bought it! Dead Leaves, Honeyed Patchouli, Champaca Blossom- in the bottle: fresh and outdoorsy. Not sweet fresh. Earthy fresh. The sweeter patchouli really compliment the dead leaves very well and the champaca blossom lifts the whole scent. Wet- this is the one that I feel best represents my childhood memory of dead leaves in piles while my grandfather raked them into mountains for me to jump into. Dry- even more lifted and sweet. The floral note is more pronounced and still beautiful. The honeyed patchouli is so lovely at this point. Another winner!! Dead Leaves and Blackberries- in the bottle: sweet and syrupy. The musky dead leaves is the top note. Not super close, but I feel like if you like Yipe! you'll like this one. Wet: the dead leaves scent is a little more pronounced but still getting lots of the sweet blackberry. Very pleasant. Dry: even sweeter. Throwing a bit better now. I really like this one! Not overly sweet. Just enough. Samhain 2016- in the bottle: like I'm walking through a damp wood just like the description. Wet: the fir is coming through nicely. The black patchouli is my favourite of all the patchoulis so far. This is essential autumn. So my jam. Really wish it was stronger. Dry: even more fantastic. Beautifully sweet autumn earthy. Only wish the throw had more beef to it. My skin eats this up. I hope this ages into something precious. Love!
Honor posted a blog entry in SwitchWitch Notes and Help!Questions that were added/asked in the SW Forum Post: Hibiscus seeds? No thank you. We have a hibiscus plant that has utterly taken over the backyard. Off-color needlepoint? Yes please. I have a pretty wicked sense of humor. *waggles eyebrows* What interests you from the latest (pre-Halloween) update? More than I expected! I’m very interested in all of the current Lunacy offerings: Leda, Coconut Meat SN, Starstruck: Libra From the Lilith/Motherhood update:Scents I'm curious about and want to try (decants would be excellent): "A Little More Tea" "Baby’s First Krampuslauf" "Connecting Flight" "Good Morning London" "Heavenly Spark" "Little Lady Frankenstein" "O The Joy of My Spirit!" "Stonehenge at Dusk" "Texare" Scents I'm pretty sure I want/would buy: Reapers Gonna Reap Spider Witch The Great Python Snake From the Trading Post: I'd love to try: Lilith's hair gloss Tag Upon Avon The Great London Spaghetti Hunt and i'm pretty sure I "need" The Serpentine Like beer? What kind? Booze? I used to love a good dark Stout, but unfortunately being gluten free that’s not really an option. I’ve not yet found a gluten free beer I really like, because they tend to be very light. But I am open to gluten free craft beers! Just be careful that they aren’t “gluten removed” beers. Those aren’t really gluten free and will make me sick. Most liquor is gluten free, but if there’s added colors or flavors you may want to check. This is a really handy list/guide that’s up to date: http://urbantastebud.com/gluten-free-alcohol-list/ If it’s something homemade like everclear with added herbs or flowers, it should be fine as long as barely, malt, and wheat aren’t included. Malt beverages (like wine coolers) are NOT gluten free and no good. My preferred liquor is Gin. I used to hate it, so now I love it, but I’m a bit of a snob. Hendricks is my absolutely favorite. I also love flavored liquors. I tend to prefer fruity or floral but not sweet, drinks. I have a fondness for cordials and liquers. Knitted items? Type? I love the idea of knitted stuff, but being in Florida there’s not much opportunity to wear them. Loose knit and knitted “lace” would be best. I do have a thing for fingerless gloves as most indoor venues (including my office) are kept freezing cold to combat the heat. I tend to prefer jewel tones and/or earthy colors (muted, sea-blues and greens and grays). Caramel? Love it. Salted. With Chocolate. With Marshmallow. With fancy flavorings. It’s just gotta be gluten free (it usually is). Would you be interested in home made food items? Yes, as long as they are gluten free/made in relatively gluten free area. (I know regular kitchens can’t be totally gluten free, but as long as it’s not near bread or flour or anything). Also! If something contains apple, just let me know so I don't let the significant other have it. (He can't tolerate apple) YES!!! To all of the below, especially rose petal liquor. - garlic dill pickles - blackberry jam - dried honey crisp apples - applesauce (with or without red hots) maybe no red hots - elderberry syrup (with honey and apple cider vinegar - great for immune boosting) YES! I love elderberries and elderflowers - honey from our bees - rose petal liquor (made with our own rose petals and everclear but diluted down a bit so it doesn't knock you over) - baked goods of your choice, what do you like or dislike? Baked goods are pretty much out, unless your kitchen is completely gluten free. Would you be interested in project bags/pouches? It depends on the size and shape. Drawstring pouch bags maybe not, but something like a side bag, messenger bag, purse, yes! Are you allergic to any fiber or do you know what kind of yarn you prefer? No allergies here! I’ve not had enough experience with yarns to have a preference, except all of my experience with acylic is that it’s been really itchy. I have no issue with animal fibers. Would you want a quilted pot holder? (for me no because i make them) Actually I need pot holders, of different sizes, so yes! Do you have any prefered flavour of shortbread? I have a fondness for shortbread of any flavor. Earl Grey and Lemon are favorites, but again, it's gotta be gluten free, and made in a gluten free kitchen. Is there anything you'd particularly like to get from the UK? I'm not sure. I don't think so? Maybe tea? Socks/sockdreams/etc? Yes! I've been wanting more funky socks, and some more knee highs but I'm not sure exactly what I want. Stripes are always good. I'm also on the look out/in need of "sock tape" or something that will keep knee highs and high socks from slouching. I haven't looked at the sockdreams site in years though so I don't know what I want anymore. Is there anything you would like to get from Japan? I'm not sure. I really miss Japan (I visited in 2007) but now that I'm gluten free I can't really partake in the food goodies. I like anime but there's nothing immediate that comes to mind that I'd want. Do you like things with Pumpkin (or Pumpkin Spice?) Yes!!
SW Halloween Notes Part 2
Honor posted a blog entry in SwitchWitch Notes and Help!I've been pretty scattered lately, but I though this might help you: I'm a big Disney fan. I have an annual pass for DisneyWorld in Florida, and my favorite thing to do is go for a few hours, ride a few rides and people watch. My favorite ride is the Haunted Mansion (I am obsessed with the wallpaper) and my favorite Disney movie is Beauty and the Beast (I'm very excited for the new live version!). I have a soft spot for Atlantis though, because I think it's really underrated. If you're crafty, I really love unique and hand crafted items. These don't have to be limited to physical objects though. Digital items or art is good too! On that note; I don't have any of the cute image "signatures" I see many folks have now. I have the ability to make them in Photoshop but not the time. So if you're really good at such a thing, go for it! I have a current obsession with mug cakes. I think they're marvelous. I love maxi dresses. Love them. They're perfect for my shape, and for Florida weather
Non-Foody Pumpkin/Jack O'Lantern scent
Fish That Swims posted a topic in RecommendationsI'm looking for a scent that smells like a lit jack o'lantern: candle smoke and wax, plus lots of raw pumpkin... (except maybe for that little toasty bit that gets burned by the candle flame)...other outdoors-y type notes would be welcome too but, please, nothing spicy or foody if it can be helped. It's so hard to find pumpkin without the spice. (plus I tend to amp anything sweet to high heaven) so sorry if this has been posted before...i've been through pages of pumpkin recs but didn't find what I'm looking for thanks!
Fall Switch Witch 2013 Q&A
Aredhel posted a blog entry in Cake or Death?Collection of answers to Qs in the Switch Witch Halloween 2013 thread and stuff. Hey, Witchee, it's getting cold. Socks, scarves, hats or arm warmers? All of the above! Pulling out the scarves and arm warmers is one of my favourite parts of cooler weather. Halloween Candy, Decorations, and Costume supplies - What kind are your idea of FUN and which ones would you thoroughly dislike? I'm always down for candy! I used to say "except candy corn, because that stuff is nasty," but I have recently seemed to change my mind about it. Tasty stuff, candy corn. Re: decorations, I've decorated my little lawn (townhouse, so it's basically some grass, sidewalk, my two trees, and my porch and windows!) a lot already, but I can never say no to Halloween related stuff. As for costume supplies, I'm not really dressing up this year (work and school), alas. WHAT traditions to you partake in for Halloween? Knowing what you do our how you decorate or how you celebrate? Yeah that can help me plot a box of goodness...or Doom Depends on the year and my schedule! I do decorate (cobwebby stuff on the trees, decals in the windows, pumpkins on the porch, skeleton-y things on the bushes, bat-themed lights along the walkway), and sometimes I go to a costume party or two. I usually go to my Aunt's to pass out candy (there's little T&T in my neighbourhood because of stupid rules re: the hours one can do it), which is always fun. Are you a fan of anything that you would like a tshirt of? If so, what size would you wear? Anything horror-y, anything related to any TV show I like (SOA, Walking Dead, etc) or any band I like (I s'pose you could find that out by my LastFM thingie), certainly. Size-wise, XL is usually a safe bet (thanks, huge boobs!). Do you love, hate, or are indifferent to.....pumpkin flavored things? I'll just let this emoticon sum up my feelings on pumpkin: . So, yes, I love pumpkin flavoured and scented things, both by itself and in Pumpkin Cheesecake, Spice, Eggnog, Latte, etc form. Dear future Witchee, did you get anything from the Beaver Moon or Weenie updates that I need to know about, so I don't accidentally repeat anything? Not yet, but I have my eye on Ooky for a possible future purchase. Name some DVDs you wouldnt mind receiving, or are they on an Amazon list? I'm really not really much of a DVD-keeper. If there's something I want to see, I usually rent it at a local video store or from my library's network. Do you want anything from Starbucks or Teavana? Tea, tea makers, rock sugar, tea tins, coffee, via, via refreshers, mugs, tazo tea...? I can always use tea accessories like rock sugar, tins, mugs, etc, and I'm always looking to try to kinds of tea. Say your witch works at a used bookstore. what kinds of things might you like from there? cool old pulp fiction paperbacks? tarot cards? (we have those.) a dr who pen? books about haunted cemeteries in seattle? you may have all of these things:) oh, and also movies. and cds. All of the above! Okay, maybe not the haunted cemeteries of Seattle... though haunted cemeteries/places of Michigan would be awesome! I love used books (except obviously moudly and/or smoke-damaged ones; those like to try to kill me). I've got some canned goods put up -- mostly jams/jellies, some apple butter, some applesauce. Want some? If so, what kind(s)? Love me some jams and jellies. And butters. And applesauce. Anything but grape. How feel you about lip balms, glosses, and lipsticks? Any particular favourite scents/flavours? Any favourite makers/sellers? Huge fan of balms and glosses, but not so much lipsticks. Given the season, I'm big into pumpkiny, cinnamony, and minty flavours/scents. Texture-wise, I prefer balms to lip butters; the latter always feel too greasy for me. No particular favourite sellers, and I'm always open to new ones! Table Games - do you play them? If so, which ones, and which versions, and are there any goodies you might like related to them? Alas, not so much. I've always been interested in them, but I never have the time to devote to learning/playing. Witchee, are you in need of any particular spices? I don't believe so! I keep everything pretty well-stocked and fresh (ew stale spices), and I don't think I'm running low/out of/in need of anything in particular. Are there any craft project/s you are working on now that you need supplies for? Or rather, is there a craft project you've been wanting to do but need stuff to start? I'm always working on something or other. At the moment I'm researching and acquiring stuff to dabble in making lotion, sugar scrub, lip balm and possibly whipped soap/foaming lotion (just for my own use and maybe for family, etc), but I have pretty much everything I need already on order or in transit. The only thing I haven't ordered yet is fragrance oils, because I haven't had the time to sort through reviews to see who sells crap and who sells good stuff. Would you rather have something fun or practical? Either-or! If you were this mystery witch's witchee, would you be interested in Spoonfudge or any other such "ordered online" sweet? I would be totally cool with any sort of food any sort of way. At all. Also - Double checking everyone's baked goods status. Home-made baked goods or other food stuffs OK? Most assuredly yes. Are you okay with semi-spicy foods right now? I'm thinking like curry or chipotle? If you were to choose a chili powder would you go Hot, Medium, or Mild? Totally depends on the spice. In general, though, anything hotter than, say, RedHot (which I adore) is too hot for me. I like tangy-hot, not "tastes like burning" hot. If I were your witch and were to paint you something, what would you absolutely love, what would you feel ambivalent toward, and what would you not like to see or receive? I've said this before, but I'm pretty art-stupid, so... I have no idea. I'd dig anything with bright colours, really. Is there anything you'd like from Lush, witchee? Oy, I haven't ordered anything from LUSH in years, so I wouldn't know where to start. Nothing against 'em, mind, I've just been happily occupied with smaller-scale shops/sites/sellers. That said (and I did forget to mention this in my Q), anything but shampoo/conditioner (I usually have unnaturally-coloured hair [silver-blue at the moment], so I have to stick with "special" [and awful-smelling] stuff) would be cool! Do you have any upcoming away time I should be aware of, for shipping purposes? Nope! None planned, anyway! Would you like anything from Sock Dreams? Oof, it's all so lovely. Anything stripey or colourful re: socks or gloves/arm warmers would be cool. Your feelings on Adagio teas: If you've never had anything from them, would you be open to trying them? If you HAVE had them and like them, name some favorites blends. I love Adagio! I've tried about half of their teas, and aside from a bad batch of Gunpowder, it's all been fantastic. My favourites so far have been Birthday Cake (a blend), Honeybush Vanilla, Rooibos Earl Grey, and Earl Grey Bravo. Do you like video games? Are there any you want to play? Do you have a large library? I do play, but mostly only adventure- and horror (mostly psychological, some survival), and even then, I'm pretty picky. Besides, I don't have much time to play anymore. Name three BPAL scents you have tried, but are dying to get more of Hungry Ghost Moon (either year), Snow White (any year), Snake Charmer. Have you ever tried anything from Paintbox Soapworks? Which products or scents would you prefer? I have not, but it looks lovely. Their emulsified scrubs and body butters look especially intriguing, and Big in Japan and Halcyon sound like they'd smell fantastic (though, so do a lot of others!) Do you like/have space to garden? If so, what do you grow? Not where I live, but I keep a garden at my Aunt's (who lives less than a mile away) in return for splitting the results (which, since it's a pretty big garden, is not a problem! ). I usually grow beans, cabbage (when the rabbits let me!), green peppers, tomatoes, squash (varies by year), sweet banana peppers, green onions, yellow onions, leeks, lettuce (variety varies by year), and a lot of herbs. Gift cards/vouchers - yay or nay? If you like them - which stores would you like one for? Usually yay! The only GCs I ever say "nay" to are for places I'd never, ever be in, like the Babys R Us one I got recently (subtle hint, maybe?), Name five small things you could use, but might not think to get for yourself? Honestly, if I could remember them, I'd have most likely picked them up. Is there anything from a farmer's market you might like? Depends on the market! I went a little crazy at the last FM of the season in my city and bought so much fresh corn and gorgeous tomatoes I might drown in them. How do you feel about nail polish? If you like it, are there any brands or colors in which you are interested? LOVE. IT. I can only wear it on weekends (stupid hospital rules) but slapping on some pretty varnish Friday nights has become like a ritual with me. I don't have a favourite brand, really; anything bright (I've been trying and failing to find a really bright neon yellow-green [kind of somewhere near #B0FF05] lately) or sparkly is always a safe bet. What about makeup? What brands do you prefer and which products would you most enjoy receiving? Love, and I tend to love it all! I'm only really (really) picky about foundation (being that I'm so pale I'm nearly translucent, and it's hard to find a foundation that doesn't make me look like I've just bathed in spray tanner). I'm fairly simple as makeup goes: concealer, foundation, black eyeliner, coloured eyeshadow, mascara, lip stain/gloss and done. Re: eyeshadow, I've been a fan of mid- to dark-ish greens and smokey grays lately. Re: lip glosses/stains, I've been gravitating toward plums and berry shades. How do you feel about robots? Robots are awesome. If I made fairy, dragon or butterfly wing earrings, would you wear them? If so, which would you prefer? Certainly! I love both, but I collect dragon-related things, so between the two, dragon! Do you prefer to receive whole coffee beans or ground? Also, if you like flavoured blends, what sort of flavours? (caramels, nuts, chocolate, etc.) Either's fine! I do love flavoured coffee, though I'm not a fan of bitter flavours (super dark chocolate, etc). Caramel, nuts, and non-dark-as-hades chocolate are awesome, though.