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I'm curious what part of 51 smelled masculine on you, b/c that one goes all freesia and melon with my chemistry. Was it the wood? Something aquatic maybe? If you like black licorice, you might try to get your hands on Pottaskefill, really nice masculine cologne vibe with a backing of licorice, or "A Kneeling Child Watching a Ghost, Devil, and Puppet Making Mayhem in a Room" which is black licorice with a warm backing of wood. Sometimes its hard to tell what's really a masculine or feminine scent because of people's individual chemistry. La Pierre Fouettard ( Whip leather, coal dust, gaufrette, and black licorice.) was all coal dust and leather on me and smelled awesome but really manly, so I slathered it on my husband. It made him smell like cookies (gaufrette). 😕 If you can figure out what's in Lilith and 51 that works well on you, you can look for that note in other perfumes. "Black Musk" is in Lilith, and smells dark and powdery/dusty/dirty to me. Maybe that was your cigarettes?

This is the kind of tobacco I don't care for. It's similar to the one in Hearth, and i think it might be the lab's "pipe" tobacco note, though that's not how it ends up on me. It's got a weird, fruity cologne thing going on. Maybe it's tobacco mixed with incense? I don't know, but sadly, this one doesn't work for me. If you liked Hearth though, this smells to me like a lighter, sweeter version of it.

Thank you to the fabulous torikitty for frimping me this. It's to die for and I just ordered a bottle. When I first smelled it, the combo was intriguing but odd. Since then, it's really grown on me, and the strangeness of it has become a plus. It's like that bar of notes in a weird key that just makes the song get stuck in your head all the more. This is very much about the champaca for me. It's very incensey, like an incense stick. The chocolate is more prominent than the gingerbread; both add an earthiness and subtle complexity to the champaca but stay solidly in the background. This is not foody on me in any way. I have and love a bottle of Gingerbread, Red Patchouli, Orange Peel, and Champaca Flower, so I held off on this one, thinking I didn't need another champaca/gingerbread blend in my life... but I was wrong. Completely different vibe here. Yum.

My experiences are very similar to both of follis's. The first time I wore it, I got cardamom and a soft, nutty chocolate equally balanced. The second time, I got a blast of cardamom and black pepper up front, no nuts, and a backing of bitter chocolate. I agree that this is gender neutral, and sadly, I agree that it's short lived. Otherwise, I'd be tempted to snag a bottle. Perhaps with age the wear will increase? Either way, Schiachperchten is an unusual spice blend that I shall enjoy wearing.

Waxy, bright plum. A bit tart. More chapzticky than candy and reminds me of pomegranite. Like Bensiabel without the leather and I also get the Bordello impression, but I'd be more inclined to wear this. I get a hint of cool florals in the background. Pretty, but resistable.

Yeeees... 🤤 This starts out as a slightly dirty grasshopper brownie. After a bit, the creamy mint overtakes the chocolate, and a warm sweetness emerges, and this becomes a delectable mint chocolate chip ice cream. After another half hour or so, the mint has faded and I get a sweet, mellow rum fragrance that reminds me a little of sweet pipe tobacco. I'm glad I gambled on a bottle of this. I love chocolate mint, and this one delivers.

Hehe. Something with poopy oude. Or... actually Yule Cat might work. Sort of foresty, and wild, and musky? Some mushroom scents might be fun too.

So... I saw the word "Barenjager" and had to try this one. If you drink, and you like honey - try the stuff. It's damn delicious and around 70 proof. Anywho - Schere, Stein, Papier! opens with warm coffee over Barenjager, with a hint of sweaty, brown leather in the background. The Barenjager has a syrupy quality and does smell different to me than other lab "honey" notes. There's a boozy quality to the fragrance, but I'm not sure if that's from the Barenjager or the blackberry liqueur. It's very sweet, but not as in your face as Grog, Hot Buttered Whisky and most of the stuff I've smelled with rum. The blackberry becomes more obvious to me as I wear the fragrance. It adds a sweet tartness to the blend. All the notes have their turn and hold their own with the coffee fading first. The fragrance is fun, casual, different, has weight without being heavy, and lasts a good while. It was a honey leather skin scent on me by the end of the work day. I'd say if you're a honey fan, it's definately worth checking out this variation. I'm not sold on a bottle b/c, alas, a vaguely "rubber eraser" note comes out on me during the late dry down. I think it may be how the tobacco is interacting with something else. It's not enough to ruin the fragrance, but... I'm gonna hold off on a bottle. I'm curious to see if Barenjager will be showing up in any more blends though.

Ok. I officially love both Forcible's, so I'magonna do a compare/contrast real quick. The real Miss Forcible is indeed, a lovely musk prominent blend on me, but there's a faintly foody undertone of delicate anise cookies like the one in Tag Upon Avon. It's sugary, and becomes more prominent as it sits on my skin. The musk element is nice and reminds me of the "porcelain musk" in Pediophobia and Mr. Croup. It's dry and light, different than "white musk", a little bit weightier, but in the same ball park. I'm not really getting any vanilla. Just sweetness. Now... the Other Miss Forcible... Oh Wow! She's lovely at first, and this is part of the genius of the fragrance. I tried the original Miss Forcible first, a while back, and procured a bottle. I'm only now trying the Other one, and upon initial sniff and application, I thought - Man.... I bought the wrong one. This Other Miss Forcible is even more amazing. She starts out fabulously buttery and sweet, but not so much as to overload this non-foody. The musk is darker. The anise is more prominent. While the original has a prim feel, this one is smexy and delicious. But then... THEN! Something smells.... not... quite... right.... The notes degenerate into cacophony. There's a weird chemical undertone? I think possibly the note the lab uses for it's "plastic" effect. As a perfume it's not wholly unpleasant, but it's jarring and strange. This phase lasts maybe ten minutes on me before the fragrance settles down and reassembles into a gentle spicy sweet scent with a touch of butter and vanilla. The final phase is totally wearable and very different from the original Miss Forcible. Anywho... It's a really fun olfactory journey. I might have to grab an "Other" at some point, but for now, I shall enjoy my bottle of the original, and lovely, Miss Forcible. As a side note - My best friend has two cats named Miss Forcible and Miss Spink, and I very much think they deserve their own scents, in case the lab ever wants to make an Other OTHER Miss Forcible and Miss Spink in their honor. As an OTHER side note - Upon reading the reviews - There is a salty undertone in this, but I don't find it unpleasant. Also, the "plastic" note the lab uses is definitely in this. It's the one they used in Single Note: Polyester Spider Web, which makes total sense and is kind of hilarious. 🕷️🕷️

Ok. I officially love both Forcible's, so I'magonna do a compare/contrast real quick. The real Miss Forcible is indeed, a lovely musk prominent blend on me, but there's a faintly foody undertone of delicate anise cookies like the one in Tag Upon Avon. It's sugary, and becomes more prominent as it sits on my skin. The musk element is nice and reminds me of the "porcelain musk" in Pediophobia and Mr. Croup. It's dry and light, different than "white musk", a little bit weightier, but in the same ball park. I'm not really getting any vanilla. Just sweetness. Now... the Other Miss Forcible... Oh Wow! She's lovely at first, and this is part of the genius of the fragrance. I tried the original Miss Forcible first, a while back, and procured a bottle. I'm only now trying the Other one, and upon initial sniff and application, I thought - Man.... I bought the wrong one. This Other Miss Forcible is even more amazing. She starts out fabulously buttery and sweet, but not so much as to overload this non-foody. The musk is darker. The anise is more prominent. While the original has a prim feel, this one is smexy and delicious. But then... THEN! Something smells.... not... quite... right.... The notes degenerate into cacophony. There's a weird chemical undertone? I think possibly the note the lab uses for it's "plastic" effect. As a perfume it's not wholly unpleasant, but it's jarring and strange. This phase lasts maybe ten minutes on me before the fragrance settles down and reassembles into a gentle spicy sweet scent with a touch of butter and vanilla. The final phase is totally wearable and very different from the original Miss Forcible. Anywho... It's a really fun olfactory journey. I might have to grab an "Other" at some point, but for now, I shall enjoy my bottle of the original, and lovely, Miss Forcible. As a side note - My best friend has two cats named Miss Forcible and Miss Spink, and I very much think they deserve their own scents, in case the lab ever wants to make an Other OTHER Miss Forcible and Miss Spink in their honor.

Huh. So the first note that hits me is a sweet tobacco, which.....apparently isn't in the perfume. So maybe the black currant and sugarcane is giving me that dark, chewy vibe I usually associate with tobacco? Either way, it's yummy. Then the violet musk starts to peek in. This turns sweeter with a hint of berry/fruit smell. I think I can smell the rose, but more as that "perfumey" vibe rose sometimes has rather than the actual rose smell, if that makes sense. And I did get a quick flash of dark plum but it was very brief. It's almost as if I'm on a ballroom floor, and different beauties are being swirled past me. I have just enough time to glimpse them in their lovely gowns before they are whisked away. The teak is the ballroom floor. Just a nice grounding for all the other notes to float above. When the dancing stops a get an interesting, dusky floral that's dark without being heavy and a dash pefumey. Very nice. I've had this on my radar for a while, but was hesitant to go for it since it has a few notes than can turn sour/plasticy on me, but no problems here! Thanks to the lovely torikitty for hooking me up with a bottle.

This. Gentle, pretty, soft. I'm not sure the incense I'm smelling is sandalwood. It smells like maybe... opium? Not sure. Generally, I prefer a bit more oomph to my scents, but for those looking for a delicate floral, this is lovely. I'll have to keep an eye out for "star jasmine." It's obviously different from the more common, powerful stuff.

First off, I love red musk and it loves me, so... it's pretty hard for any blend where it's featured prominently to be bad on me. I'm also a fan of dragon's blood. This smells like a solid blend between the two with a bit of nose twitching black pepper thrown in. It's nice. I'd wear it. But it doesn't really stand out from several of the other red musk blends they dropped in the year or two surrounding this one. Deluge of Blood (Which I own and love. I find TSIAS sweeter though), Starstruck Aries, Ketkrokkur, Four Grave Robbers Awaken - off the top of my head. I've smelled variations of this before, and I think other versions were better, but it's a perfectly good, red musky incense blend if you re looking for one.

This one did not work for me. Something about the black tea with the resins makes for an interesting combo, but not one I particularly enjoy. Murky black tea is by far the strongest note on me. It reminds me a little bit of Sluagh, but that worked better for me. I get some of the more cool toned, minty anise, vs. black licorice. It burns off pretty fast though. I don't really get any vanilla, but there's definitively some dark patchouli and heavy incense notes giving this one it's weight and murk. I could certainly see why this could be a favorite for some. It's different and it's got a lot of atmosphere. Not my cup of tea though. Swap!

I don't get soap from this. Perhaps it's b/c my imp is aged, or perhaps it's b/c I amp clove. This is a gentle clove scent on me, sweetened by a hint of the sugary carnation and rose in the background. I don't know if I love it, but it doesn't read as grandma or anything bad to me. It's feminine. Maybe a bit mysterious and maternal. It's a tad incensey. Rosy glow is a good descriptor. Hmmmm.... I'll have to wear this one a bit more and see if it grows on me. As of yet, not bad... but not a love. ETA: So after wearing this around for most of the day, I've decided I officially like it. Don't know if I'll hunt down a bottle, but if one ended up finding its way to me, I wouldn't mind. No soap. Only a tad bit of rose. Mostly a gentle, warm carnation scent on me, with the amber grounding it and keeping it from just being pure floral.

Really lovely. Chrysanthemum has a distinctive, almost fresh water aquatic smell to it that I recognize from a previous Luper, "Flowering Chrysanthemums." Kind of like a much lighter, sweeter version of marigold. The incense is gentle and warm, like Japanese incense sticks. It's understated but present. The carnation is the sweeter, more floral variety, vs. the clovey smell I usually get. Think "Maiden." DVAH is a gentle floral incense smell that's got it's own vibe. It also lasts a good while. 5 hours of wear and it's still going strong. If you like incense, but prefer softer blends, this would be a good one to check out. If you like florals, and want to try something different, this also worth checking out.

AAAAAAAAAALL the mugwort. Right up front. POW! Right in the kisser. It's a fragrance I kind of oddly like, but it's not something I would want in a perfume. But then.... The mugwort starts to soften and the chamomile starts to take over, and it's just this soft, soothing veil over everything, and the orris is just doing it's creamy powdery thing to add to the effect. At this point, I don't even smell the mugwort except maybe the faaaaaintest greenness poking up around the edges. This is very soothing/calming. I've been very depressed lately, and wearing this has put me in a better mood. It's not something I would ever wear enough to warrant a bottle, but I'm glad I have the imp, and I'll have to keep it around for those blue or anxious moods.

This starts out very strong on the chewy, tobacco note, a hint of sharpness from black leather, and something dusty and resinous adding weight in the background. It's very nice, but I think it would smell better on a man than on me. A woody patchouli starts to make it's appearance. After V's been on about half an hour it becomes much softer, the sandalwood, oakmoss, and orris come out, giving this a soft, powdery/dusty edge that still leans masculine. It makes me think of tobacco and suede. It also reminds me a bit of Mythological Scene w/a Warrior.... and would fit nicely in amongst Criminal Glamour and Disrespect for Established Authority. This is a really nice scent, very dynamic as it runs through the notes, but always edges on masculine. The black leather isn't super prominent. If you like warm, woody, resinous blends, oakmoss and woody patchouli - I'd check V out. Nok - Love that description. You ever come across that ASMR video, you let me know. 😜

Astringent white tea, jasmine, and soap. 😕 I'm pretty sure it's the musk in this, mixed with the clean, citrusy tea, that's really amping the soap factor on my chemistry. I think this might work well for someone who likes Embalming Fluid and wants a more grandiose, floral vibe. Alas, I get no leather. This one isn't right for my chemistry.

This is very rosey on me, more so than I would like. I was hoping for a bit more balance between the rose and the resins. This is also the type of rose that tends to turn sour on my skin, though this one's not behaving TOO badly. I get a bit of myrrh and the tickle of dusty amber in the background of this, darkening and adding depth to the rose, and I wonder if there's a touch of red musk in this. It definitely smells very "red" to me. I prefer the balance in Crucifixion though, where the rose is present, but the resins take center stage. This is the opposite. This also reminds me of Importune Me No More with it's very red, full-bodied, floral feel. Not my thing, but if you love rose, I could see how you'd be a fan.

This smells gently fruity and creamy sweet to me at first, like the creamy filling of a confection. But there's just enough soft, incensey champaca in the background to ground it and keep it from smelling too foodie. The coconut is becoming more identifiable. It's luscious, but not tropical. The champaca is really nice in this. Very soft, but present. This seems like really delectable skin scent. I think the ambrette is giving it sort of a "lived-in" feel. Subtley sexy and nibble worthy. I might have to snag a bottle of this if they re-release it. Yum. ETA: Just realized what this is reminding me. Temple Viper with that sugar cane and champaca combo. This is much gently sweet though. More fruity, less incense. I"m a fan of both though.

Very pretty, hazy, floral. I was thinking it smelled like it had soft white musk in it and almond, but that didn't seem quite right. Looking at the notes, I realize it's a powdery orris with the coconut. It's not super sweet though, and has enough going on that it's not floral overkill for me. Creamy and dreamy. Perfect for spring.

Very floral right up front. Just a big ol bouquet of flowers Flowers FLOWERS. I get quite a bit of peony up front. This is one of the fragrances, in fact, that made me realize, peony's not my jive. Then a sweet, gentle rose comes forward. Very pink. I think the lilac's in the background, adding a hint of creaminess and maybe tempering the sweetness a bit? SO many flowers. I don't know what rice flowers smell like so I don't know if I'm smelling them. This is an unabashedly floral and feminine blend. Creamy. Medium weight. Sort of demure? Peony and rose lovers might really dig it. If you like scents like The Reaper and the Flowers and Les Fleurs du Mal, you might dig it. It's not for me though.

So... without looking at the notes, I got musky peach and a white floral. Maybe magnolia or gardenia? Apparently that's gardenia. It's tempered quite a bit by the other notes though, at least to my nose. The peach and nectarine, which were the most prominent notes at first, are now making way for the gardenia, and it's becoming more and more recognizable. It doesn't want to share the stage either. It's pretty, but something about the way it plays with the frankincense's dusty resinous aspect tingles my nose and reminds me of soap. I think this is a pretty blend, but I have other gardenia scents I prefer. BUT, if the idea of a peach and white floral combo sounds nice to you, this one's quite pleasant.

Kind of herbal and green, like a nice shampoo. I DO get the ginger, and it reminds me a bit of Dubious Ginseng Formula, but that was fizzier and sharper, and this is a bit more soapy/clean smelling, but not in the typical "aquatic" way. This seems like a nice bet for someone (male or female) to wear when they just want to smell fresh and clean, but not perfumey. Not me, but pleasant none the less and probably a very good choice for summer.